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But my assumption was wrong. In fact, this is a canon with a delay of one quarter.
White-cup_-green-cup I’m waiting for your version of the cup beat.
Have a nice weekend! 🙂@the_bumble_bard I don’t always manage to answer quickly, but music is not a product that spoils quickly.
So let’s continue the conversation.You correctly noted that Anna has sixteenth notes, while “Eastern Duo” does not.
In my video, I used the white cup part from “Eastern Duo”.As for the green cups… In the intro, the white and green cups play the same thing. But in the verse and chorus, the situation changes. At first, I assumed that this is a canon with a delay of one measure (this is very common in sheet music).
White-cup_-green-cup_assumption This time it has nothing to do with cup beat.
While the piece (Duetto buffo di due gatti) is typically attributed to Gioachino Rossini, it was not actually written by him, but is instead a compilation written in 1825 that draws principally on his 1816 opera Otello.
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@The_Bumble_Bard Meow, meow, meow 😸😸
It made me think of “Duetto buffo di due gatti” (Italian for “Humorous Duet for Two Cats”).Have you ever seen this? If not, I’ll leave the version I like in the “cup beat” thread.
These two songs were constantly playing on the radio. And despite the fact that the songs are different, in some heads they successfully merged into one, so that a hybrid of “Modern Jovi” was created.
And in Europe at that time Modern Talking were popular with the song You’re My Heart, You’re My Soul.
This is not an isolated case when one part of a song can be replaced by another. Maybe you know Bon Jovi and his song Livin’ On A Prayer? This song was popular in the late 80s.
I haven’t seen the TV series “Friends”. I liked what Ashley did, but I was wondering what the original version of the song sounded like. When I was looking for the original, YouTube offered me a cover version of “Eastern Duo”. I liked their idea too.
And now let’s get back to your question: “Why did you choose to modify the beat?”.
We have two different songs, with different melodies, with different chords and (oh miracle) with two different percussion parts. I didn’t change Anna’s part, I’ve never played it (yet)…Or did you notice that what I did doesn’t look like the “Eastern Duo” version? I didn’t have to copy 100%. I borrowed the idea.
As I said before, Anna´s “cup beat” can be used in «I´ll be there for you». If someone already knows Anna’s «cup beat», they can play it!
@the_bumble_bard I’m very pleased that you liked it.
There are a few „yes and no“ about the “cup beat”…
No: the “cup beat” is not the same as in the film with Anna Kendrik.
Yes: both songs are in 4/4.
Yes: both “cup beats” consist of 2 bars.
No: the rhythmic pattern of the first measure is not the same (see attachment).
Yes: the rhythmic pattern of the second measure is the same.
No: the movements of the hands and the cup in the second measure are not the same.
Yes: Either of these two “cup beats” will work with either of these two songs.
Cup-beat Hello everyone!
Here is my attempt with – “I’ll Be There for You”.
I didn’t manage to do it in 53 seconds, but the number of bars stayed the same 🙂I liked the cover version by Eastern Duo Feat. Ayala Fossfeld; I borrowed some ideas from there.
Have a nice day!
I’m glad you liked it. ☺
Johan believes that Piazzolla’s music is very difficult for those who come to his tango evenings. This is the most important limitation from his point of view.
At the end of the discussion, which dragged on and never ended, he said that in principle he did not like Piazzolla. This is another important limiting factor. This factor influences the decisions Johan makes.The dancers from the second and last post are professionals who like Piazzolla.
Tango evenings are often attended by beginners or “eternal beginners” (dancers with low skill levels), some of them have no idea who Piazzolla is and that they are dancing “wrong”. But Johan understands this.You’re right: the extra bit is confusing. Johan said that “Take Five” is simpler than Piazzolla’s music. There are many details in Piazzolla’s music that are confusing.☺
Let’s return to Piazzolla. It turns out that from Jochen’s point of view, Piazzolla’s music is not danceable under certain conditions. And if you go beyond the limiting boundaries, then you can dance.
Finally, Piazzolla´s music interpreted by step dancers. And again it’s Esсualo.
And here is an interpretation in the style of traditional Japanese dance.
I just find it fascinating.
Jochen teaches how to dance tango to traditional tango music, neo tango and non-tango. He also believes that it is impossible to dance tango to, for example, “Take Five.” He says that his students usually “don’t hear” 5/4, and those who do can’t translate it into dance. Tango is usually in 2/4 or 4/4 time.
“Take Five” is a jazz standard, so jazz dancers can probably handle it without any problems. I was interested in how non-jazz dancers interpret this dance.
Here we see salsa dancers. Salsa is usually in 4/4 time, so salsa dancers have much the same problems as tango dancers, namely what to do with the extra 1/4.
I like what they did.
